I'm retired from racing. Really.

I would hope the Packs don't get too butt hurt and not let him go as a Packer. That would be silly. Although, what I think he is doing now is pretty silly too. He's great and all, but I think he should have retired last year.

Jon, as a true packer backer who grew up in Madison WI, I will say this: Brent is not a popular guy back home. I wish I had though up the idea for this shirt, this company on State street in Madison is making a real killing off it:

http://sconnie.com/view_item&id=137

My guess is this is going to be a comical NFL season. let the interceptions begin! Bart Starr is the man!!!!

check this:

http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10953222

Packers are going to knock the stuffing out of Brent Farve in front of a national audience on MNF on Oct 5. Rogers will outplay in every aspect of the game. Can't wait.

Paul, I think I actually detect some animosity now. Not surprising, actually. Brett has turned himself from a "football hero" who played for the "love of the game" into an extremely selfish, indecisive egomaniac who doesn't mind holding an entire team hostage and lying just to get what he wants. I heard he actually just wanted to skip training camp, which is why he delayed his return. And even after Childress said he would require Favre to attend OTA's or at least training camp if he wanted to play.

Here's the good news- the Vikings just screwed themselves long-term. Sage and Tavaris have no trust in Childress, Brett will get injured or play crappy by the end of the season, and the Vikings will have no QB to fall back on. Plus I'm sure this whole "put Favre on a pedastal above the rest of the team" has ticked off some of his new teammates...

Part of me hope he gets hurt, but that's mean. So I hope he stays healthy but plays like complete CRAP such that Childress has to bench him, turn to his rejected QB's, and break Favre's start streak. And then they still miss the playoffs. And then the Packers won't allow him to go into the HOF as a Packer.

Packer fans hate the Vikings. Brett Favre is now a Viking. Thus, Packer fans hate Brett Favre.

Paul, I assume we are going to watch MNF together since we are both from Wisconsin?

And you had the spelling right in the first post. It is Brent Farve.

And anyway, I am still pissed at Brent about the giants game, I was glad to see him go after that. What an idiotic pass. Typical. good riddance.

Sure come on over on Oct 5 for MNF. We will be in Smithfield by then, and settled in. My only rule is no talking about non-football related things except during commercials. And respectful silence while the offense is on the field.

What about when the defense is on the field? Do we have to cheer "D-fense"?

hmmm... you may be more into this football stuff than I am anymore.... I wonder if they sell the brent shirt in a tech singlet?

No, then you make Brick Favvrer slurs.

Now that one I can do. Even sober.

My two cents (or three or four):

I think not knowing what he really wanted to do and not being confident probably will hurt his performance. It has been a circus surrounding this issue. But let him play because it's his legacy. If he wants to be remembered as a flop with the Vikings than A Hall Of Framer with Packers then he'll have to live with it.

At least it will bring more drama to the NFL, and the Packer games.

Kory, your last sentence sums it up well, it kind of makes you wonder if the whole thing is some kind of staged/rehearsed publicity stunt, kind of like professional wrestling. I wonder if the packer and viking management didn't get together on this. the packer management couldn't dream for better drama than this for their season.

I'm still holding out hope that Favre and Ted Thompson schemed the whole thing together, as an elaborate 2-year plan to ruin the Vikings. Favre will get the Viks to the playoffs, and then "fall apart" in order to break hearts of their fans and get their coach fired. Favre then retires for the third and last time, but meanwhile the Viking locker room is in disarray, morale is low, and they have no viable quarterback who doesn't hate their organization. One can only dream...

Paul, you are an eternal optimist but maybe delusional on this one.. though I like your optimism! I am trying to figure out how this scenario correlates with that interception in overtime against the giants though... was there a grander purpose for that by brent to somehow elevate the packers?

Sometimes you need to lose the battle to win the war.

This sounds exactly like something I recently read...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/090814&sportCat=nfl

Man I missed out on such a good discussion. It is pretty boring talking about running all the time. I don't have much to add on the Favre situation. I'm just impressed he was still wearing his same faded red hat he has wore at all the other retirement, unretirement press conferences. I just want to know how our Broncos are going to do this year Jon? I'm not to sold on Kyle Orton, throwing three interceptions in a pre-season game is not a good thing.

Dustin, I'm worried about this year. I think 8-8 would be great. But realistically I think they will be closer to 4 wins than 8, esp. if Brandon Marshall doesn't get his act together. It could be a very long year.

So why did we fire Shanahan, again?